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User is offline Murat Korkmazov 

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:11 PM (#1)

Do you need an ability to import faces from Google Picasa?


Picasa is very good to quickly recognize people faces on images.

Do you need an option in Daminion to import faces from Picasa to Daminion?
Does anybody use Picasa to manage your photos?

Peoples could be imported into Daminion automatically during the import or via "Read Metadata from Files" option (need to turn on an appropriate option in the program Preferences).

I am trying to estimate the demand for this feature.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:41 PM (#2)

 Murat Korkmazov, on 05 April 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Picasa is very good to quickly recognize people faces on images.

Do you need an option in Daminion to import faces from Picasa to Daminion?
Does anybody use Picasa to manage your photos?


I used it for a short time, after this I prefer the hierarchical structure of tagging.

But I just a private user. Maybe a nice to have?
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:22 AM (#3)

No. Every piece of photo management software with face recognition feature I've used so far (including Picasa) can associate rather random pixel sets to a face (e.g. a table's leg or stones in mud) therefore importing such unpredictible data is not necessay IMO. This is my private opinion based on my unlucky experience.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:27 AM (#4)

Mariusz

I've tested the latest Picasa version on my private photo gallery (~16k photos) and I get an outstanding result. It required about 3 hours to recognize and describe all the peoples. And you can quickly fix the wrong results manually.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:07 AM (#5)

Hmmm, will give it a try again one day.
Thanks for sharing.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:50 AM (#6)

 Murat Korkmazov, on 05 April 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Do you need an option in Daminion to import faces from Picasa to Daminion?
Does anybody use Picasa to manage your photos?


Picasa does do a really good job at face recognition, better than the other attempts in image software I have seen.

But, personally, I don't think it should be a priority to add support for it, I would prefer making tagging in Daminion really effective first.

I don't need the face position data for anything, so adding the tags for people while I am adding the other tags anyway is not that much of a problem, as long as adding tags is really streamlined.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 10:09 AM (#7)

Jibz, Mariusz, and Menace thanks for sharing your thoughts.

We plan to drastically improve the convenience and speed of the file cataloging. About 5 improvements related to the image cataloging is planned to the next minor version.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:05 AM (#8)

Personally, I would love to be able to use Picasa to quickly recognize & tag people in my images. I take a lot of group activity pictures (like kid's birthday parties), and tagging each picture individually as I sort them is a hassle -- to the point that I don't do it :P I know my mum would be thrilled too; she has even more pictures than I do, with no people tagging whatsoever yet.

This is the perspective of an avid amateur, not a professional. I guess it depends on which audience Daminion geared towards...
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:06 AM (#9)

Sulawesi_Girl, thank you for the answer!
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:19 AM (#10)

I used Picasa for a while and I really like the face recognition features, I stopped using Picasa as it doesn't have other features I need. I think adding the possibility to import this data from Picasa would be a great first step moving forward to have face recognition in Daminion :)
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:00 AM (#11)

Exterminador, thanks for the answer. May be it will be a good idea to ask this question on the Picasa forum? :)
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:33 PM (#12)

I agree with Jibz, effective tagging & keyword use is a must for me.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 03:39 PM (#13)

Thank you, guys!
We'll improve Daminion cataloging capabilities on the next few minor updates.
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 09:00 PM (#14)

Would love to see this feature.
I also have used Picasa to tag names but then had to use AvPicFaceXMPTagger to write names to the photos-- would be very convenient if I could do most of my tasks in Daminion.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:53 AM (#15)

I would LOVE the ability to do this. I have read that Picasa 3.9 stores the names in the IPTC but it doesn't seem to work for me very well. I am trialing Daminion but that would be a very useful addition as Picasa 3.9 is very good at detecting faces.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:48 AM (#16)

Added your vote to this feature. Thank you!
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:00 AM (#17)

Hi Murat,

Put me down in the "Yes" area for this feature. I haven't used Picasa in many years, but was planning to fire it up.

What I've recognized is that, in general, I want to tag a few things on EVERY photo in my collection:
* - Where it was taken (nicely, GeoSetter is helping me tag my files)
* - When it was taken (nicely, my digital originals have this data already and Daminion lets me re-date my "now digital" files - scans of old family photos and similar momentos that started their life in non-digital form)
* - Who is in the image

If you can provide a quick tutorial on how to take my images, have them scanned by Picasa for face recognition and drop that data into Daminion, that'd be incredible... I'd then have "reasonably time efficient" solutions for all three key categories above. That'd allow me to spend more time on the "extra fields" which is where things get fun - adding tags like "wagon", "Legos", "teddy bear", "Birthday", etc. :-)

Thanks for always taking user feedback!,

Russell

P.S. You might research how Picasa handles EXIF data - there was a rumor a little while back that it pretty much destroyed camera EXIF data. I'd hate to have you help users lose information in their images!
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 05:00 PM (#18)

 Russell, on 05 January 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

P.S. You might research how Picasa handles EXIF data - there was a rumor a little while back that it pretty much destroyed camera EXIF data. I'd hate to have you help users lose information in their images!


Thanks for the info. As I know Picasa stores information about Faces (Peoples) inside the external settings file.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:17 PM (#19)

The ability to import faces from Picasa would be at the very bottom of my wish list. Thanks for seeking user feedback though.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:18 AM (#20)

Please implement that.

Great would it be, if you could also implement a feature, that like in google picasa and facebook, you can even determine the location on the picture. Like clicking on one face and linking that to the filename.
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